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		<title>College Education &#8212; Future is Bright, but the Present is Risky Business</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Working with college students has given me a unique lens on their prospects for making more money as they move through their careers.  One of the things that pains me is watching students, not far along in their college experience, seriously begin questioning whether they are 100% committed to finishing school.   I see this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working with college students has given me a unique lens on their prospects for making more money as they move through their careers.  One of the things that pains me is watching students, not far along in their college experience, seriously begin questioning whether they are 100% committed to finishing school.   I see this soul-searching in the lower division classes at the 100 and 200 level I teach.   There are many who never make it past community college.  Even at the university level, a <a class="wp-caption" title="MSNBC 2005 Report on College Dropouts" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10053859/" target="_blank">2005 MSNBC article reported</a> that only 54% of students were finishing their degrees (6 years after they started).   And the data gets even worse for Hispanics and blacks.</p>
<p><span style="color: #000080;"><strong>Dangerous Times</strong></span><br />
The first two-to-three years in school is a dangerous time for students.  They are typically still feeling the invulnerability of their teen years.  They are largely free from family responsibilities.  And the temptation to make slightly more in the short-term, without a degree is real.    Unfortunately the temporary boost in pay by working full-time is typically short-lived.  From my experience &#8211; I know that if students don&#8217;t finish school it gets much harder for them to make the real bucks over the long haul of their careers.  Take a look at this chart:</p>
<div id="attachment_104" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 567px"><a href="http://www.prosperish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/collegeeducationstillpays3.JPG"><img class="size-full wp-image-104 " title="collegeeducationstillpays" src="http://www.prosperish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/collegeeducationstillpays3.JPG" alt="Stay in school kids!" width="557" height="410" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Stay in school kids!</p></div>
<p>So it&#8217;s best to finish school.   I had one of my students recently share with me that in the hey days of the real estate boom, she made close to 400,000 in one year.   She put off plans for school (I probably would have too!) and then the real estate market crashed (ouch).  She was starting back up at community college, trying to buildup her professional skills, but now she is thirtyish and a single mother.   It&#8217;s going to be a hard road for her.  I wish her the best of luck.</p>
<p>Consider another story about a honest and truly great executive I know.  This woman has immense integrity and was an inspiring leader.  Despite her great people skills, she was laid off from the mortgage industry in 2008.   Now this person has been out of work for more than a year.   Part of her dilemma is that she never finished college.   Many of the filtering tools used today by recruiters in large companies pretty much automatically route non-degreed management candidates right into the garbage bin.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000080;">Student Loan Shenanigans</span></strong><strong><br style="text-decoration: underline;" /><span style="font-weight: normal;">Of course, at the other end of the spectrum, I don&#8217;t advocate going to school by borrowing either.  Borrowing with a 1-in-2 chance of finishing is a double whammy.  But consider this as well; the entities that lend money to those students are fully aware that about 1/3 of all undergraduate loans will go into default.   That&#8217;s a pretty high default number.   By comparison, home equity lenders manage their loan portfolios with a only a 2% default rate.  Why would banks lend money to low-income producing students with such high default rates, you ask?   Is it because &#8220;someday&#8221; they know these kids will earn lots of money?  Nope.</span></strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s because student loan debt is not bankruptable.   The banks will eventually get their money from the borrower.   I&#8217;m all for people paying back what they borrow, but this spells disaster for too many young Americans, especially the ones who are not graduating with their degrees. Students, even ex-students, do not have the same bankruptcy protection that works for other types of consumer loans.  These products are marketed to a somewhat unsuspecting audience, and the disclosure rules are not as tough as they are for credit card lenders (which means smoke and mirrors for the borrower).</p>
<p>This was a heinous bit of lobbying effort which was passed into law about 10 years ago.  If this makes you angry, StudentLoanJustice.org can give you <a class="wp-caption" title="Who did it." href="http://studentloanjustice.org/whodidit.htm" target="_blank">a list of people to blame</a>.  Perhaps if enough parents, educators, students and concerned citizens will band together, we can demand that this be changed, but I&#8217;m not holding my breath.   Just to have full disclosure, I don&#8217;t have any student loans, never did, but I definitely have had family members and people I love stuggle with this.</p>
<p>So, remind yourself the next time you are staring at a &#8220;financial aid&#8221; package for yourself or someone you care about, that the average college <em>graduate</em> has $20,000 in student loan debt.   And then ask how much student loan debt do the dropouts have?  Or consider the two students in James Scurlock&#8217;s documentary <em>Maxed Out</em>, who committed suicide because they got in over the heads in credit card debt.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000080;">The Right Balance</span></strong><br />
So, I advocate for going to college, but having students working part-time and paying for it as they go.  If parents or relatives can help out, great.  But the family should not be taking out loans either, not unless they like horse track racing.  If you are a proud and anxious parent and you are tempted to co-sign a loan to fund junior&#8217;s college, remember those default rates for students &#8211; they are very, very high.</p>
<p>If students stay on task, pace themselves and develop the ability to finish what they started, that will lead to the best scenario.  If you are a parent, friend or relative of someone who you think is struggling &#8212; offer some encouragement, or perhaps pay for a textbook.  They will be educated, experience long-term success and the income will follow.  I&#8217;m sorry &#8211; I don&#8217;t know when they will move out though.</p>
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